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Jun 2024
37m 30s

Why You Don't Need A Crazy Story to be a...

Grant Baldwin
About this episode

“In some ways, my story is a detriment. There's a pro and a con to having overcoming extreme adversity, because people feel disconnected from it. I've had people tell me multiple times after speeches, man, if I went through what you went through, I'd be as happy as you are. And I'm like, no, man, you're missing the point. The principles I just taught you are what you need to pay attention to.”

Grant’s sitting down with the creator of The Miracle Morning, Hal Elrod to talk about how he got into speaking, if and when you need a book to complement your speaking efforts, and how to know if you’re living into your true passions. 

“During that time, I was really thoughtful and strategic of, like, what do I want this book to do? And one thing I wanted it to do was to get me corporate speaking gigs. I wanted to raise my fee."

In this episode, Grant and Hal get into: 

  • 00:00 Hal’s early experiences with overcoming hardships.
  • 05:33 Facing doubt early on as a speaker.
  • 07:06 Do you have to have a massive overcoming story to make an impact?
  • 11:31 How reframing challenges led to public speaking. 
  • 14:38 Hal’s experience finding his early gigs and getting booked as a speaker. 
  • 17:08 What it’s like to get your first paid gig. 
  • 20:35 When should you start flying first class?
  • 24:23 Do you need a book to launch your speaking career?
  • 26:55 How do you get started and build momentum?
  • 30:52 When did you know it was time to transition to the next thing? 
  • 33:01 How does a speaker know they have what it takes? 


 "I got $500, which was my first ever paid gig. I was on top of the world, and it went really, really well. They loved it. And so I was able to share my story, my cutco experience, and then the lessons drawn from both of those, and then that just gave me some confidence, like, oh, wow, I can speak to a corporate audience."

Not sure if you’ll like this episode? Well, Hal’s got great advice on achieving our goals, too. ⬇️

"If you have multiple goals, which a lot of us do, then what ends up happening is you just make a dent in each one, and you rarely accomplish any single one of them because you're always scattering your time."

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