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Apr 2024
50m 15s

Beyoncé "TEXAS HOLD 'EM"

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In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, join Toby and Joe for a lively discussion about Beyoncé's latest single, "TEXAS HOLD 'EM.” They discuss Beyoncé's career and celebrate her work ethic and talent, particularly her ability to transcend genres and challenge musical conventions. The conversation explores the history of country music and the role of black artists within the genre. But is genre really just a construct? Why are we so afraid to break musical boundaries? Also, why does the Cheesecake Factory menu have so many pages? Throughout the episode, Joe and Toby celebrate Beyoncé's artistry and the sonic quality of her latest album while also questioning some of the production choices (that click track on “Blackbird”— eegads!).

The album Cowboy Carter is overflowing with talent, featuring veteran artists like Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Linda Martell, and Stevie Wonder, and highlighting emerging talents like Tanner Adele and Shaboozey. Toby and Joe explore the parallels between Beyoncé's journey and those of past artists like Charley Pride and DeFord Bailey and shed light on the long-standing challenges faced by black musicians in country music. By acknowledging this history and paying homage to those who paved the way, Beyoncé's album becomes a part of a larger narrative of resilience and creativity.

Many artists have switched lanes, from Amy Grant to Darius Rucker. Joe and Toby explore the double standards and biases that exist within the music industry. Why do some artists face backlash for exploring new sounds, while others are celebrated for their versatility? These disparities highlight the complexities of race, identity, and cultural perceptions in music.

Join us for the conversation as we explore “TEXAS HOLD 'EM” and the power of art to challenge norms, break barriers, and bring diverse voices to the forefront.

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