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Apr 2024
1h 52m

About FISA and Networks Begging for Pres...

Andrew Heaton, Jen Briney, Justin Robert Young
About this episode

The gang discuss the recent eclipse, the FISA debate, and the importance of presidential debates. Also, your Gaza emails...


The hosts share their experiences of the eclipse and discuss the significance of the event. They then delve into the FISA debate, highlighting the history and controversies surrounding Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. 


Finally, they discuss the value and effectiveness of presidential debates, with one host expressing skepticism and the other acknowledging their historical significance. The conversation explores the potential changes that could be made to improve the presidential debates. They discuss the historical significance of debates and the value of seeing candidates go head-to-head. 


The conversation ends with your emails on the Israel-Palestine conflict and the significance of the hostages in shaping perspectives. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts address some feedback and reflect on the emotional nature of the discussion. They emphasize the importance of understanding different perspectives and engaging in civil debate. They also discuss the need to challenge one's own beliefs and avoid intellectual laziness. The hosts express their gratitude for the support and understanding of their audience.



00:00 The Magical Atmosphere of the Eclipse

12:03 The Controversy Surrounding Section 702 of FISA

38:06 The Decline of Presidential Debates

49:11 Proposed Changes to Improve Debates

01:14:12 Considering the Perspective of Hostages

01:41:18 The Importance of Civil Debate and Understanding Different Perspectives

01:50:22 Appreciating the Support and Understanding of Listeners



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