logo
episode-header-image
Mar 2024
2h 3m

45: The Fantasy of Family and the Meanin...

Patrick & Abby
About this episode

Abby and Patrick welcome writer Sophie Lewis and writer and psychotherapist M.E. O’Brien to discuss their recent books on family abolition, Abolish the Family: A Manifesto for Care and Liberation and Family Abolition: Capitalism and the Communizing of Care. They discuss the roots of “abolition” as a philosophical concept, why it doesn’t simply mean “destruction,” and the historical relationship of family abolition to movements for police and prison abolition. Turning to the “family form” itself, they juxtapose the family as an abstract social ideal with the actual history of the nuclear family as an institution fundamentally related to the political economies of property accumulation, slavery, and settler colonialism, and more. They explore how contemporary resistances to the mere phrase “family abolition” can reflect an investment in fantasy over and against the social realities of the family as a site of violence, abuse, and labor that is rendered invisible and even disposable. Drawing on Black feminist scholarship, they unpack how questioning the family as a form can in fact catalyze liberatory and even life-saving modes of care and solidarity from the austerity-ridden cores of Western social democracies to Gaza and beyond.

Sophie Lewis’s books are available here:

Abolish the Family: A Manifesto for Care and Liberation: https://bookshop.org/p/books/abolish-the-family-a-manifesto-for-care-and-liberation-sophie-lewis/17862950

Full Surrogacy Now: https://bookshop.org/p/books/full-surrogacy-now-feminism-against-family-sophie-lewis/12024545?ean=9781786637291

M.E. O’Brien’s books are available here:

Family Abolition: Capitalism and the Communizing of Care:

https://bookshop.org/p/books/family-abolition-capitalism-and-the-communizing-of-care-m-e-o-brien/17561686

Everything for Everyone: An Oral History of the New York Commune, 2052-2072, with Eman Abdelhadi: https://bookshop.org/p/books/everything-for-everyone-an-oral-history-of-the-new-york-commune-2052-2072-eman-abdelhadi/18166819

Other relevant articles:

Sophie Lewis, “Covid-19 is Straining the Concept of the Family. Let’s Break It.” https://www.thenation.com/article/society/family-covid-care-marriage/

Lewis, “I’ll Do The Dishes,” https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n09/sophie-lewis/i-ll-do-the-dishes

Lewis, “Mothering Against Motherhood,” https://haters.noblogs.org/files/2022/03/Mothering-Against-imposed.pdf

M.E. O’Brien, “The Family Problem, Now”: https://www.parapraxismagazine.com/articles/the-family-problem-outro

O’Brien, “Trans Childhoods and the Family Romance,” https://www.parapraxismagazine.com/articles/trans-childhoods

O’Brien, “Communizing Care,” https://pinko.online/pinko-1/communizing-care

Pinko Magazine: https://pinko.online/


Have you noticed that Freud is back? Got questions about psychoana

Up next
Jul 12
Episode 107: On Abjection Teaser
Subscribe to get access to the full episode, the episode reading list, and all premium episodes! www.patreon.com/OrdinaryUnhappinessAbby, Patrick, and Dan discuss and apply Julia Kristeva’s concept of abjection. It’s an influential and powerful idea in its own right, but it also ... Show More
4m 25s
Jul 5
Episode 106: Abortion, Agency, and Protest feat. Hilary Plum
Abby and Patrick sit down with writer Hilary Plum to discuss her remarkable new book, State Champ. A novel at which the politics of abortion stand at the center, but far from a didactically “political novel,” State Champ gives the three an opportunity to explore a suite of deeply ... Show More
1h 34m
Jun 21
105: Standard Edition Volume 2 Part 3: Studies on Hysteria, Part III: Four Versions of Anna O. Teaser
Subscribe to get access to the full episode, the episode reading list, and all premium episodes! www.patreon.com/OrdinaryUnhappinessAbby, Patrick, and Dan return to the first case study in Studies On Hysteria (1895). But while previously they examined the case of “Anna O.” as tol ... Show More
5m 51s
Recommended Episodes
Dec 2023
#287 Les rouages complexes de la famille avec Sophie Galabru
Sophie Galabru est philosophe, c'est aussi la petite fille de Michel Galabru, je me permets ici car elle en parle dans son dernier ouvrage dédié à la famille "Faire Famille" sorti aux éditions Allary. Et à la veille de noël et des grands raouts familiaux nous allons donc parler d ... Show More
56m 11s
Jun 2021
The Act of Estrangement
Danny Lavery welcomes Sophie Lewis, the author of essays about octopus sex, theoretical screeds about capitalism, and numerous texts about family abolition, including the 2019 book Full Surrogacy Now: Feminism Against Family. Lavery and Lewis give advice to a letter writer who is ... Show More
58m 27s
Jul 2020
Traditional Family: The Strongest Weapon and Last Defense Against Totalitarianism (Part 5) [E159]
The nuclear family is under attack maybe more than every before in history—Today we discuss why some are working to erode family values, and why we must defend it . . .In this episode we talk about: How to escape poverty Role and strength of the Nuclear Family Why Black Lives Mat ... Show More
1 h
Apr 2023
The ‘Quiet Catastrophe’ Brewing in Our Social Lives
It’s impossible to deny that the U.S. has a serious loneliness problem. One 2018 report by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that 22 percent of all adults — almost 60 million Americans — said they often or always felt lonely or socially isolated. That was a full two years before ... Show More
1h 14m
Oct 2023
#65 Sophie Galabru : Une philosophie des liens de sang
Aujourd’hui dans Graine de Métamorphose Claire-Marie Dikanska reçoit Sophie Galabru docteure de philosophie, enseignante et auteure. Quelle est la valeur des liens de sang ? La famille est par essence sous tension car s'entrecroisent en elle l'identité et la différence, la protec ... Show More
53m 43s
Apr 2024
From Betty Friedan to Ballerina Farms: Lisa Selin Davis on the conceptual housewife
This week, author and journalist Lisa Selin Davis returns for her third visit to The Unspeakable. Lisa is best known to listeners for her thorough and rigorous reporting on the new gender movement and her probing insights into how ideas around gender nonconformity have shifted ov ... Show More
29m 2s
Dec 2023
#48. Ontology and Oppression ft. Katherine Jenkins
Alex and Tinka are joined by Katharine Jenkins as they delve deep into the captivating world of gender, identity, and the various social constructs that shape our lives. The way society is organised means that we all get made into members of various types of people, such as judge ... Show More
55m 39s
Sep 2023
Le club des bons pères de famille
Au grand jour, ils apparaissent comme raisonnables, mesurés, sympathiques. Amis du bons sens et de l’égalité. Mais derrière cette posture, ils dénigrent les luttes féministes, défendent des hommes violents ou le sont eux-mêmes. Cette mentalité des “bons pères de famille” a longte ... Show More
42m 9s