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Apr 2022
1h 6m

Systems Thinking with Diana Montalion

Patrick Akil
About this episode

Diana Montalion shares how we think of, and design, sources of information to accommodate for what we want as users, depending on the context we’re in. It requires a way of thinking we’re not used to: systems thinking, or non-linear thinking. But doing so and adapting the software we create, can open up opportunities that weren’t there before.

Some of the topics we cover this episode, in order 👇

☑️ Systems thinking vs. Linear thinking
☑️ Designing for sources of information
☑️ Do you know why your tasks matter?
☑️ Changing the skills we value when hiring
☑️ Learning from each other, and growing as a team

More on Diana:  
https://www.montalion.com
https://twitter.com/dianamontalion
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianamontalion 

#systemsthinking #software #podcast

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