logo
episode-header-image
Feb 2024
54m 22s

Pat Boguslawski Is the Secret Weapon Beh...

THE BUSINESS OF FASHION
About this episode

Pat Boguslawski is setting the fashion world in motion. 


The Polish movement director at Maison Margiela is the creative mastermind behind some of fashion’s most memorable runway moments. From German model Leon Dame’s viral runway stomp in 2020 to the seductive strides of corseted characters in John Galliano’s triumphant 2024 Maison Margiela couture show, Boguslawski is redefining the role of the model and bringing back the spectacle of the show. 


“I always tell the models that it's better to give more than to give less,” he told BoF editor-at-large Tim Blanks, on this week's podcast.


Key Insights


  • Growing up in Poland in the nineties, Boguslawski devoured fashion content on TV and in print. But as he watched everything turn into a product, he felt the storytelling essence of fashion diminish.  “I started doing my job because I got bored. I just didn't like the direction we were going towards. … I promised myself that I'm gonna start bringing that energy back to fashion and create major runway moments.”


  • Boguslawski is a multi-faceted creative. He started training as a dancer at age 15, transitioned to modelling and also studied drama and acting for four years before shifting to movement direction. “I'm so grateful that I was so curious because now I kind of use everything that I did in the past at my job,” he says. 


  • Directing the movement for the 2024 Maison Margiela couture show, Boguslawski encouraged the tightly-corseted models to channel their pain and discomfort into their characters. "I remember saying, 'Use that pain, use that suffering in your character. Just use whatever you're feeling right now. … Don't try to be perfect. Just let me see the suffering,'" he recalls.


  • For Boguslawski, a connection with the audience is a key part of the show. “I like when the audience feels intimidated. It's exciting and I love the adrenaline that comes with it.” He recalls the impact of his direction during a rehearsal before the show. “I remember we were watching the main rehearsal and they were wearing their own clothes and the corsets. The whole rehearsal got a standing ovation by everyone who was in the room.”


Additional resources





Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Up next
Oct 8
Sports x Fashion: Who’s Really Winning?
From team-branded fashion shows to tunnel-walk capsules and luxury watch deals, sport and fashion are converging at speed. The NFL has rolled smaller licensing tie-ups into marquee partnerships, while the WNBA is emerging as a fertile ground for inventive brand-player collaborati ... Show More
25m 14s
Oct 3
Kiki McDonough on Changing How Women Buy and Wear Jewellery
Raised in a family of antique jewellery specialists, Kiki McDonough launched her namesake jewellery brand in 1985 with accessible pricing and pieces women could wear anywhere. Her early crystal-and-bow designs ended up in the V&A, while her growing client list came to include mem ... Show More
29m 50s
Oct 1
Can Gen-Z Beauty Brands Grow Up?
Brands like Bubble, Starface and Byoma rode TikTok-native aesthetics to win Gen-Z hearts and Sephora shelf space with plush mascots, playful stickers and sensorial jelly textures. Founders close in age to their audience moved fast, crowd-sourced ideas and mastered algorithms. Now ... Show More
23m 5s
Recommended Episodes
Oct 2022
Jenna Lyons On The Real Housewives, Dressing America, And Redefining Beauty
Jenna Lyons is nothing short of an icon. Fun fact, she’s actually the reason I got into fashion. From a young age, I was obsessed with her perspective on personal style. It was a blend of highs and lows - a Schiaparelli skirt with a button down top, or a feather skirt paired with ... Show More
45m 40s
Apr 2024
ERY MERA, la mode de Rekiatou Daboya sublime en toute discrétion
Rekiatou Daboya est guidée par la simplicité afin de créer une mode chic et élégante. La styliste Togolo-française navigue entre la France et le Togo, mais son atelier est installé à Lomé. Elle y conçoit ses tenues de prêt-à-porter en petites séries et du sur-mesure pour femmes, ... Show More
6m 51s
Jan 2023
Predicting The Coolest 2023 Fashion Trends And The Items You Need to Nail Them
Happy New Year everyone! In today’s episode, I sit down and share my thoughts on the fashion industry’s current events, new trends, and the items you need to nail them. From the recent designer musical chairs, to the J. Crew and Banana Republic resurgence, and the Met Gala, get c ... Show More
27m 44s
May 2024
Mounir Moda, une mode au masculin flamboyante et made in Sénégal
Mounir Moda, styliste sénégalais, créateur de la marque éponyme, est aussi le promoteur du festival de mode 2MDesign show à Dakar et du Salon international de la mode, le SIM. Mounir Moda a à cœur d’utiliser dans ses collections de vêtements pour homme le pagne tissé pour mettre ... Show More
5m 12s
Oct 2022
Demna (Artistic Director, Balenciaga)
Fresh from the mud-spattered, Santiago Sierra designed catwalk of the Balenciaga Spring 2023 collection, Artistic Director Demna talks to Marc Spiegler about cutting his teeth at Martin Margiela and Louis Vuitton to the lasting effects of having been a refugee of the Former Sovie ... Show More
45m 58s
Feb 2023
The History of Fashion Week
Welcome to a new season of The Glam Observer Podcast. Fashion week is just around the corner so I thought it would be interesting to learn about the history of fashion week(s). In this episode we will talk about:the first fashion showthe history of New York, Milan, Paris and Lond ... Show More
27m 4s
Sep 2021
Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Cinderella and Bridgerton Costume Designer Ellen Mirojnick Tells Us How She Builds a Visual World From the Ground Up
On this week’s episode, Hillary speaks with Bridgerton costume designer Ellen Mirojnick, who brings us behind the scenes of creating the fashion and sartorial world of Shondaland which—the series that broke Netflix streaming records (82 million watchers and counting). Tune in to ... Show More
40m 58s
Mar 2018
#120 Trinny Woodall: Fashion, Instagram & Career Chapters
My guest today is Trinny Woodall, author, fashion advisor and beauty entrepreneur.You may know her from the hugely popular Trinny and Susannah makeover days. Her and Susannah met in 1994 and wrote a weekly fashion column for The Daily Telegraph. This led to the launch of their ow ... Show More
26m 42s
Mar 2024
*PATREON PREVIEW* Bum Money
All the pods that’re fit to publish. This week, Jimmy and Larry are opening up on the contagious enthusiasm and psychological motivation behind James’ latest copping spree, over-indexing on specific jawnz categories, what we love and will miss most about Dries Van Noten, putting ... Show More
12m 19s