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Feb 2024
1h 50m

“Black or White”—Michael Jackson

The Ringer
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Rob reminisces on his time witnessing Janelle Monae perform at South By Southwest in the year of Michael Jackson’s passing, before looking back at the King of Pop’s televised funeral. Along the way, Rob looks back at the height of Jackson’s powers in the '80s as well as a bit more tumultuous era in the '90s. Later, Wesley Morris joins the show to aid in deciphering how to process Michael Jackson’s career draped in success and controversy.

Host: Rob Harvilla

Guest: Wesley Morris

Producers: Jonathan Kermah and Justin Sayles

Additional Production Support: Chloe Clark

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