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Feb 2024
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TikTok vs. Universal Music: Why Taylor, ...

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Matt is joined by Rolling Stone’s Ethan Millman to discuss the ongoing battle between Universal Music Group and TikTok, why Taylor Swift, Drake, and other artists’ music is no longer on the app, if TikTok deserves to pay less in royalties because of its cultural prominence and inherent marketing advantage, and ultimately who needs who more. Matt finishes the show with a prediction about the final season of ‘Curb Your Enthusiasm’.


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Host: Matt Belloni

Guest: Ethan Millman


Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez

Theme Song: Devon Renaldo

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