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Do the Heat Need to be Fixed? Plus, Doc’...

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Verno and KOC discuss Doc Rivers’s debut coaching the Bucks, explain why Paolo Banchero will eventually be a top-five player in the league, as well as the Timberwolves' impressive win over the Thunder (03:24). As the Heat losing streak hits seven, the guys debate whether another move is inevitable, and discuss what Julius Randle’s injury means for the Knicks (19:50). Also, are the Cavs really starting to turn the corner? After Luka Doncic scored 73 points over the weekend, the guys debate if the high scoring offenses from the modern NBA are good or bad for the future of the league (41:08).


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Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor

Producer: Jessie Lopez

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