logo
episode-header-image
Nov 2023
46 m

S03 E12: System Override

True Story Media
About this episode

With the jury's stunning $242 million verdict in favor of the Kowalski family, host Andrea Dunlop looks at why this case has struck such a nerve on both sides of the political spectrum. She examines why some mothers accused of medical child abuse are viewed as monsters and others as martyrs.  

Andrea looks at the charges against social worker Cathy Bedy the woman who became the face of the child welfare bureaucracy during the Maya Kowalski case and examines her testimony.  

We also seek out answers about the troubled state of child welfare in America by talking to Dr. Jessica Pryce, author of the forthcoming book Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services—Notes of a Former Caseworker. 

Dr. Pryce shares heart-wrenching stories of mothers whose lives have been turned upside down by investigations and sets out a compelling and urgent case for an overhaul of CPS. With her inside view of the system, she also gives insight on how doctors and other mandated reporters can do the best for the families they want to help even within the current, deeply flawed system.  

This episode grapples with the complexity around reporting child abuse suspicions and the potentially chilling ripple effects of the explosive verdict in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens. It examines the lack of support for struggling parents in America, while leaving the listener with urgent questions about justice and equity. 

***

Pre-order Dr. Jessica Pryce’s book here:  https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Transforming-Protective-Services_Notes-Caseworker/dp/0063036193 

Learn more about Dr. Pryce’s work on her website: https://jessicaprycephd.com/  

Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  

 If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 

Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 

Buy Andrea’s books here

***

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!


Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 

Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Up next
Jul 10
S06 E04: The Caretaker
Mishelle describes her brother Collin as a vibrant little boy who loved to joke around and make people laugh. All of that changed, seemingly overnight. Sabrina and Mishelle walk Andrea through their memory of the timeline of Collin’s symptoms, and his eventual diagnosis with NMO ... Show More
59m 3s
Jul 3
S06 E03: “Open, Reliable, and Trustworthy”
We begin this week’s episode with a young Mishelle struggling to adjust to life with her grandparents, finding it difficult to accept both the separation from her parents and the reality of what her mother had done. Meanwhile, Lisa is in the midst of a police investigation, under ... Show More
55m 22s
Jun 26
S06 E02: “How Could Someone Do That to a Child?”
Lisa’s second child, Angellyn, was born prematurely and in a medically fragile state. Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina recount a troubling pattern: just as Angellyn would be cleared for hospital discharge, doctors would abruptly reverse course, warning that she might not survive the ... Show More
52m 7s
Recommended Episodes
Sep 2023
YouTube Mom Ruby Franke in Court, Blames Her Little Children for Sex Abuse, Porn
Ruby Franke makes shocking claims in court. The mom accused of child abuse, claims that one of her minor children sexually abused siblings, and molested several other family members,  and children in the neighborhood, for years.  Franke alleges one of her children began looking a ... Show More
39m 39s
Oct 2023
Will Alleged Abusive Mommy Bloggers See More Charges?
In the latest episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers", host Tony Brueski sat down with renowned Defense Attorney Bob Motta, also known for his contributions to the podcast "Defense Diaries". The two delved deep into the recent controversies surrounding therapist Jodi Hildebrandt ... Show More
7m 45s
Mar 2023
Karen McCarron
In 2006, Karen McCarron murdered her 3-year-old autistic daughter, Katie. The details of the case are shocking and heartbreaking, but there’s also the reasoning behind the murder that truly tears people up. This is also a case that divides some, especially as it relates to the me ... Show More
1h 6m
Nov 2021
Plans to Kidnap/Torture Estranged Wife FAIL to Win Her Back (Best of Crime Stories)
A Washington doctor is charged with attempted kidnapping after police say he reached out to “hitmen” on the dark web. Investigators got a tip about a scheme to kidnap Dr. Ronald Craig Ilg’s wife. A woman who received the tip-off told investigators that Ilg wanted someone to kidna ... Show More
41m 36s
Feb 2020
Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow still missing as so-called "Doomsday Cult Mom" Lori Vallow asks judge for reduced bail.
JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan have not been seen since September. Mom Lori Vallow has been arrested, and faces multiple charges including two counts of of child abandonment. Today the so-called "Doomsday Cult" mom appears in court, wanting a judge to reduce her five million dollar bon ... Show More
22m 38s
May 2021
4-year-old tot's killer caught on nanny cam?
Home security footage helps police identify the alleged killing of a 4-year-old boy. Cash Germon was found lying in the middle of a street in his neighborhood. Cops say he died from violent injuries sustained from an “edged weapon.” The man arrested in the death, 18-year-old Darr ... Show More
37m 15s
Nov 2021
Babysitter terrorizes tot CAUGHT ON NANNY-CAM
Security video shows a 2-year old boy being physically restrained by his nanny and force-fed. The little boy can be heard saying 'NO" as well as crying and screaming for his daddy. Parent Max and Laura Oglesby turned in their home security feed to the horrifying situation. The co ... Show More
43m 20s
Aug 2022
Step-Dad Kidnaps, Rapes, MARRIES 6-YEAR-OLD GIRL
Suzanne Sevakis' story is a frightening one. Kidnapped as a child by the man she knew as her step-father, and raised as his daughter. They moved often, with Floyd changing their names each time. As the girl becomes a woman, Franklin Delano Floyd marries Sevakis and ultimately kil ... Show More
41m 5s
Sep 2023
DUGGAR FAMILY -Shiny Happy People-Dr John takes us inside what's really going on inside the documentary
Hosts Dr John Matthias and Lauren Matthias take listeners inside the Shiny Happy People documentary about the Josh Duggar family, IBLP and Bill Gothard. DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work ... Show More
1h 38m