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Plus: Why Lama Rod is "no longer interested in being a good person," why we need to let go of perfectionism, and the selfish case for sainthood.

Lama Rod Owens is making his fifth appearance on Ten Percent Happier. He describes himself as "a Black Buddhist Southern Queen" and is an authorized lama in the Kagyu School of Tibetan Buddhism with a Master of Divinity degree from Harvard. His new book is The New Saints: From Broken Hearts to Spiritual Warriors.

In this episode we talk about:

What Lama Rod means by "New Saint"
Why he is "no longer interested in being a good person"
Why it's so important to let go of the ideal of perfection
The practices and characteristics of a New Saint
The questions you should ask yourself about your beliefs
His experiences with what he refers to as "unseen beings" and his exploration of the "unseen world"

Related Episodes:

Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/lama-rod-owens-new-saints/lama-rod-owens-new-saints

New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers.

---

Plus: Why Lama Rod is "no longer interested in being a good person," why we need to let go of perfectionism, and the selfish case for sainthood.

In this episode we talk about:

What Lama Rod means by "New Saint"
Why he is "no longer interested in being a good person"
Why it's so important to let go of the ideal of perfection
The practices and characteristics of a New Saint
The questions you should ask yourself about your beliefs
His experiences with what he refers to as "unseen beings" and his exploration of the "unseen world"

Related Episodes:

Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/lama-rod-owens-new-saints/lama-rod-owens-new-saints

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