logo
episode-header-image
Oct 2023
59m 20s

Stick to your knitting: Anton Tagliaferr...

LIVEWIRE MARKETS
About this episode
Anton Tagliaferro grew up in Malta, playing football and studying with the dream of someday becoming a doctor. This was pushed aside, however, when political unrest in his native country led him to leave for London, where he ended up studying accounting.   

Soon after graduating, Anton discovered the world of funds management and was hooked on the idea immediately. Through taking advantage of chance opportunities, Anton was able to migrate into an equities manager role, where he began building a personal brand as a reliable investor.

After receiving encouragement from clients, Anton struck out on his own and founded Investors Mutual Limited in 1998. The timing put Tagliaferro and his team at the formation of the tech bubble.

"We set up, and the first six months things were going ok. And then the tech boom comes along," he recalled. 

Bolstered by a background in accounting, and some unorthodox methods of avoiding the pressures of the crowd, Tagliaferro avoided falling into the common pitfalls of Dot-com stocks. 

"Every single piece of rubbish with technology in the name was running, and all the while every decent company was being sold down," he said. 

This led to several years Anton described as the most brutal in the business, as indices bloated with overvalued tech stocks, leaving his value portfolio in the dust. He persevered, however, and when the tech bubble eventually burst, his fund's fortunes flipped and would end up drastically outperforming the market overall.

This demonstration of high conviction investing, in the face of much criticism, built Tagliaferro and IML a reputation in the market, and their funds under management grew accordingly.

Recently, Anton has been able to move into retirement, which he now spends contributing to the development of soccer in Australia. That being said, he still keeps an eye on the markets and hasn't ruled out a return to the industry.

"If I was starting a boutique fund manager today, and I might start one next year, I haven't decided yet, I'd focus on international equities," Anton said.  "I think the Australian market - the amount of superannuation, the amount of money chasing a handful of stocks... it's such a concentrated index - and if you look at the quality below the top 20, I've gone through it a thousand times, I'm still going through it, and you take out the REITs and resources, there are very few good quality industrials in Australia." 

In this podcast, Anton shares his origin story, his serendipitous journey into funds management, and the challenges he has faced along the way. He also provides his view on the current market landscape and opens up about his plans for the future. 

Timecodes:

  • 0:00 - Introducing Anton
  • 2:12 - Growing up in Malta, early career path through accountancy
  • 9:10 - Getting a start in London
  • 13:36 - Coming to Australia
  • 16:17 - Grabbed by the stock market
  • 18:25 - How do you get into Funds Management
  • 21:00 - Lucking into an equities manager position at Perpetual
  • 28:50 - Perpetual launches a fund
  • 31:25 - Move to County and lessons from institutional investors
  • 34:20 - Investing philosophy
  • 37:00 - "It's time to set up your own thing"
  • 39:25 - Hardest time in Anton's career
  • 41:45 - Collapse of the tech boom
  • 45:20 - What drove performance
  • 50:15 - What's the state of markets at the moment
  • 56:26 - What's next?
Up next
Jun 30
Nick Griffin on finding stocks that can double earnings in 5 years
Nick Griffin’s path to fund management may have seemed preordained, his father worked in the industry, but his journey has been anything but ordinary. After completing a commerce degree, Griffin missed out on a graduate role with one of the big four accounting firms. That setback ... Show More
54m 37s
Jun 2
Jake Klein: The West is ill-prepared for what lies ahead and the gold price reflects this
Jake Klein left a high-flying banking career to chase a hunch about gold, and it paid off in spades. From pioneering mining ventures in China to building Evolution Mining into a $16 billion powerhouse, Klein has made a habit of spotting value where others see risk. In this episod ... Show More
49m 3s
May 9
How Fidelity’s Paul Taylor stays ahead of the market
We're often told that beating the market over the long term is impossible. A lucky year or two? Maybe. But doing it for more than two decades? That’s supposed to be out of reach. Paul Taylor has defied that logic. Managing a concentrated portfolio of 30 to 50 local stocks through ... Show More
55m 22s
Recommended Episodes
Jun 15
Mark Mobius: Change is coming and most companies are not prepared
“People are getting too short term. They’re getting panicked by the developments taking place on tariffs and so forth... they don’t realise it’s often just a bargaining point.” That’s the view of Mark Mobius, a pioneer in emerging markets investing and founder of Mobius Investmen ... Show More
36m 33s
Dec 2024
The Shocking Future: How Markets Are Changing with Larry McDonald—Crypto, AI, BRICS, and the New Administration’s Impact | S2 Ep. 161
Welcome back to Founder's Story! In this episode, Daniel Robbins sits down with Larry McDonald, founder of The Bear Traps Report and author of the newly released book, How to Listen When Markets Speak. Larry brings decades of investment expertise and invaluable insights on na ... Show More
26m 24s
May 2024
Expert Tips You Can't Miss: Game-Changing Advice from Industry Leaders | Dr.Anand & Anthony Joseph
Welcome to AJ PODCAST , the go-to platform for insightful discussions on global investment trends and opportunities. In this episode, we're diving into the heart of Dubai's evolving market landscape with industry experts Anthony Joseph and Dr. Anand.🎰 New Casino in UAE: We kick ... Show More
42m 5s
Feb 2020
Pop Delusions: Dylan Grice on the golden age of duration, why economists are cargo cultists, and the anatomy of a forecast with Tobias Carlisle on The Acquirers Podcast
Dylan Grice is the founder of Calderwood Capital Research. Before Calderwood, Dylan was the Head of Liquid investments at Calibrium AG, a private investment office based in Zurich, Switzerland.    Prior to joining Calibrium AG in 2014, Dylan was a part of the consistently top-ran ... Show More
55m 23s
Dec 2024
E87: What It Takes to Win Big (in MENA): Insights from a $35B Founder and Global Investor
Chris Rogers is a global entrepreneur who co-founded Nextel Communications, a wireless connectivity company, in 1987 and sold it for $35B in 2005. In the early 2000s, Chris came to Saudi Arabia to launch Nextel as a joint venture with Saudi Telecom. His deep connection to the reg ... Show More
1h 19m
Feb 2025
Ray Dalio on AI, Job Loss & the Future of the Economy | #EP 148
In this episode, Ray and Peter discuss the changing world order, China vs. the USA, and Ray’s thoughts on the future of the US. Recorded on Feb 3rd, 2025Views are my own thoughts; not Financial, Medical, or Legal Advice. Ray Dalio is a renowned investor, hedge fund manager, and p ... Show More
1h 46m
Apr 2
To Make Better Decisions, Think Like a Venture Capitalist
Venture capital firms notoriously embrace risk and take big swings, hoping that one startup will become a monster hit that pays for many other failed investments. This VC approach scares established companies, but it shouldn’t. Stanford Graduate School of Business professor Ilya ... Show More
24m 44s
Mar 2025
Tariffs Tangle Markets, Businesses, Investors
When uncertainty spikes, our ability to look out into the future shrinks. (00:21) Emily Flippen and Matt Argersinger discuss:- How the shifting tariff picture is driving uncertainty across markets, economic forecasts, and investor outlooks.- Target’s continuing troubles, and why ... Show More
40m 31s
Oct 2024
From Conversation to Conversion: Mastering the Art of Talking to Leads and Closing Deals
 Effective sales start with meaningful conversations. Learn how to engage potential leads, build rapport, and confidently close deals with proven techniques that turn prospects into customers.--- Secure your spot at the #1 conference for real estate, entrepreneurship, and social ... Show More
13m 40s
Oct 2022
Is Credit Suisse the Next Lehman Brothers?
This episode is sponsored by Nexo.io, Circle and FTX US.   After a wild weekend of speculation and discussion, NLW breaks down what’s actually happening with beleaguered Credit Suisse, as well as why the FinTwit doom machine seems so focused on it.  - Nexo Pro allows you to trade ... Show More
16m 12s