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Aug 2023
45m 45s

The AI ‘Race’: China vs. the US with Jef...

TRISTAN HARRIS AND AZA RASKIN, THE CENTER FOR HUMANE TECHNOLOGY
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It’s a common counterpoint: “But what about China? We can’t let China get ahead.” In this episode, experts Jeffrey Ding and Karen Hao explain the realities of Chinese AI development and assess the stakes for the multi-national race. 
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