For centuries, scholars have debated the nature of Achilles and Patroclus’ relationship. The 2004 movie “Troy” cast them as cousins. What if they were actually lovers? This week, their rivalry-romance heats up, and a mysterious enemy reveals themselves.
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Nov 2022
Thanksgiving Special: Zorro, the Curse of Capistrano
He’s the swashbuckling fox of Southern California, a masked bandit who fights injustice with skill and swagger. In our Thanksgiving Special, meet the Curse of Capistrano, the lion-hearted legend himself, as he outwits his ruthless enemies and falls in love! Learn more about your ... Show More
1h 10m
Nov 2022
Thanksgiving Special: Zorro, the Curse of Capistrano
He’s the swashbuckling fox of Southern California, a masked bandit who fights injustice with skill and swagger. In our Thanksgiving Special, meet the Curse of Capistrano, the lion-hearted legend himself, as he outwits his ruthless enemies and falls in love! Learn more about your ... Show More
1h 10m
Aug 2016
EPISODE 14 “DEADLY DESTINY”
THE STORY: (57 minutes) This episode, pivotal to the entire Trojan War Epic, features philosophy, bedroom farce, and genuine tragedy -- all in equal measure. Temptation plays the lead: Agamemnon tempts Achilles; Hera tempts Zeus; and Patroclus tempts Deadly Destiny. THE COMMENTAR ... Show More
1h 17m
Mar 2018
Achilles & Agamemnon, the Real Housewives of the Trojan War (The Iliad, Part 1)
We're in it now. Achilles and Agamemnon have a major spat over a prize (read: a woman). The gods are called in to settle things, and everyone gets a little dramatic. CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, ... Show More
27m 7s
Jun 2025
RE-AIR: Conversations: So Are They Cousins Or Not?! The Love of Achilles & Patroclus w/ Charlotte Gregory
It's always a good time to revisit Achilles and Patroclus... This episode originally aired in June 2023. Liv speaks with PhD student Charlotte Gregory about all things Achilles and Patroclus, their relationship, and how modern Classical reception depicts their love, cousin or oth ... Show More
1h 38m
Dec 2024
Battle of the Bastards: Achilles v Odysseus w/ Hermes Michaela
In a special, rambley holiday episode, Liv and Michaela look at who was worst Achilles or Odysseus?CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real th ... Show More
45m 10s
May 2024
S10E5 - Troy Story: Iphigenia LIVES
Oh Muses! We revisit the aftermath of the Trojan War, In this episode we encounter siblings, human sacrifice, an excessive amount of revenge murder, an Achilles cameo, and two-part episodes. You can listen to Greeking Out two weeks early and ad free on Wondery+! What's that? You ... Show More
19m 33s
Aug 2024
Choose Your Fighter: Achilles as a Manly Archetype
The game is on, Helen is abducted, and now it's time to gather the Greeks for war. There are lots of stories about how the Achaean forces made their way to Troy, and some of them--like the story of the Achilles heel--are permanently associated in the popular imagination with Home ... Show More
59m 44s