Jon sits down with Lou Valoze, a former undercover agent, to explore the thrilling and often morally complex world of undercover work. Lou shares his journey from a directionless young man to a determined DEA agent, driven by the thrill of the game and the desire to take dangerous criminals off the streets. The conversation delves into Lou's experiences infiltrating motorcycle gangs, facing betrayals, and the philosophical questions that arise from his work. Lou also reflects on his post-retirement life, emphasizing the importance of self-care and family. His insights into law enforcement and human nature provide a unique perspective on crime, justice, and personal integrity.