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Mar 2023
40m 41s

“Kids Just Want Our Gladness” with Hoda ...

Higher Ground
About this episode

Hoda and Michelle go deep on the importance of shining our light for others, especially children. They also talk about how they’ve navigated the most daunting challenges in their lives—from Michelle’s time as the first Black First Lady or Hoda’s decision to adopt kids late in life.


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