Will the next nuclear bomb be AI Superintelligence?

The intelligence we’re building will reshape the world in ways we never imagined—for better or worse? But more importantly, what side will humanity take?

In this episode, Mo Gawdat, bestselling author of Scary Smart and former Chief Business Officer of Google X, joins Dave to tackle the profound challenges and opportunities artificial intelligence presents. This isn’t about dystopian robots or tech hype—it’s about redefining what it means to be human in the age of machines. There’s hope, don’t worry!

Mo dives into the reality of how AI is already shaping our behavior, our ethics, and even our potential for happiness. He reveals the critical need for aligning intelligence—human or artificial—with values that promote global abundance and collaboration. Dave and Mo mix data, philosophy, and bold visions, to show why our future depends on shifting from competition to cooperation. But most importantly, why all of this is going to make you a better YOU.

What You’ll Learn:

• The real reason AI is reshaping human behavior—and how to take back control

• Why intelligence without ethics could lead to catastrophe

• How abundance thinking can unlock limitless possibilities for humanity

• The crucial mindset shifts leaders need to adopt before it’s too late

• Practical insights for ensuring AI supports human flourishing, not destruction

Resources:

2025 Biohacking Conference – https://biohackingconference.com/2025

Mo Gawdat’s Book: Scary Smart – https://a.co/d/6DukqyW

Mo Gawdat’s Book: Unstressable – https://a.co/d/hrbpY9O

Follow Mo Gawdat on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/mo_gawdat/

Danger Coffee – https://dangercoffee.com

Dave Asprey’s Website – https://daveasprey.com

Dave Asprey’s Book: Smarter Not Harder – https://daveasprey.com/books

Dave Asprey’s Linktree – https://linktr.ee/daveasprey

Upgrade Collective: Join The Human Upgrade Podcast Live – https://www.ourupgradecollective.com

Own an Upgrade Labs – https://ownanupgradelabs.com

Upgrade Labs – https://upgradelabs.com

40 Years of Zen – Neurofeedback Training for Advanced Cognitive Enhancement – https://40yearsofzen.com

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Timestamps:

• 00:00 The Ethical Dilemma of AI in Warfare

• 00:31 Introduction to Part Two with Mo Gawdat

• 00:58 AI and Human Happiness: A Complex Relationship

• 03:18 The Power and Responsibility of Technology

• 05:08 The Rise of AI and Its Impact on Society

• 08:31 The Future of AI: Abundance or Destruction?

• 19:53 The Role of Ethics in AI Development

• 22:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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