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May 2023
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EP 45: Digital Banking vs Traditional Br...

Arjun Singh
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In the latest episode of Couchonomics with Arjun, we had the pleasure of interviewing Oliver Hughes, former CEO of Tinkoff, one of the largest digital platforms in Russia. Oliver's unique experience in the finance industry and his excellent reputation in the market led him to be recruited by Oleg Tinkov as part of the leadership team of the newly-launched Tinkoff Credit Systems. Oliver's journey in Tinkoff and his experience in the financial industry gave us valuable insights into the current state and future of digital banking and FinTech.

During the podcast episode, Oliver shared how Tinkoff evolved from a direct-to-mail credit card business to a giant financial lifestyle ecosystem that offers a wide range of lifestyle services like brokerage, travel, entertainment, and much more. He emphasized how the lessons they learned during the global financial crisis of 2008 became competitive advantages that they still carry through today. 

Oliver also highlighted the importance of balance sheet management and profitability in the digital banking and FinTech industry. He discussed the liabilities-led approach that many companies used in the past, which resulted in scaling without profitability. He also touched on the concept of traditional banking and how it's being replaced by digital banking, which he believes is the future. However, he also noted that private equity-fueled neo banking has led to a lack of discipline in managing balance sheets, which is essential for running a profitable digital banking business.

In addition, Oliver talked about the challenges that traditional banks face in building ecosystems, as it requires expensive online expertise and a tech culture that traditional banks are not equipped to handle. He also shared his belief that the B2C business model won't move to tech companies or retailers, but rather to digital banks that have the balance sheet and the ability to go direct to consumers through mobile channels.

 Other topics of discussion in this episode include:

-      The importance of unit economics in digital banking

-      The future of traditional branch-based banking

-      The barriers to entry for entrepreneurs in emerging markets. 

 

Don't miss this exciting episode of Couchonomics with Arjun, where we dive deep into the world of digital banking and FinTech with Oliver Hughes. 

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