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Gideon talks to the US political theorist John Ikenberry about why the Ukraine war has been both a challenge and a spur for those who want to see liberal democratic values thrive. Clip: Global News

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The new Washington consensus

Lula vows partnership with China to ‘balance world geopolitics’

‘Dare to fight’: Xi Jinping unveils China’s new world order

It is time to cut Russia out of the global financial system

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