39:T40c,The relationship between fathers and daughters has been the subject of countless cultural explorations down the centuries, from Elektra's distress to Bonjour Tristesse. Some of them are idealised ('To Kill A Mockingbird', 'All the Lights We Cannot See'); some highly damaging and dysfunctional ('This is England', 'The Beggar's Opera'); some, as any A'Level pupil who's studied 'King Lear' can attest, are both. What is clear in all these cases is just how particular and powerful the relationship can be, and in this highly personal programme Lauren Laverne heads home to team up with her own dad, Les, to talk about their relationship and how it matches up with some of these cultural imaginings. Among anecdotes about growing up in Sunderland and later on Les playing roadie to Lauren's gigs with the likes of the Ramones, we also hear from artists who in one way or another are engaging with the dad/daughter relationship now, including Helen MacDonald, Glyn Maxwell and The Unthanks. Presenter: Lauren Laverne Producer: Geoff Bird.3a:T504,

Sisters Christine and Lea Papin committed a horrible brutal murder in France in 1933. Both sisters were live in servants in a big mansion owned by the Lancelin family. They had worked there dutifully for many years but over time their work began to fall off. It was pointed out often by the woman of the house, Leonie Lancelin, often in cruel ways as the the sisters would later say. One night they decided they weren't going to take it anymore.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss one of France's most notorious crimes. The sisters said they acted in self-defense but the crime scene details were such that the claim was impossible to believe. Many people said the sisters were strange and insinuated that the two were lovers.

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