logo
episode-header-image
Apr 2023
1h 19m

Schell on The Long Arc of US-China and L...

JORDAN SCHNEIDER
About this episode

How did Xi Jinping’s formative years influence how he views the world today? Veteran China scholar Orville Schell, the Arthur Ross Director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations, looks back at decades of writing and working on China, weathering the cycles of the country opening up and shutting down and gives his two cents on what’s going on in Xi’s head.

We also discuss

—  Why Mao Zedong is a better read than Xi

— China’s reciprocity problem on the international stage

— How US officials reacted to Tiananmen in a secret meeting with Deng Xiaoping

— A history of accessing China for academics, businesspeople and journalists

— Xi and victim culture


Outro Music: Glenn Gould performing Contrapunctus, I, IV from Bach’s amazing Art of the Fugue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqDCieiDWAE


Check out the newsletter at ChinaTalk.media!

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Up next
Aug 22
NVIDIA GPU Black Market Smuggling
Are GPUs being smuggled into China? Nvidia says no. But Steve Burke, editor in chief of Gamer Nexus, has traced out the entire smuggling chain in an epic three-hour YouTube documentary. He filmed another three-hour documentary exploring the impact of tariffs on America’s supply c ... Show More
56m 46s
Aug 20
Learning from Ukraine, Preparing for Taiwan
Mick Ryan is a retired major general in the Australian army and author of three books — War Transformed: The Future of Twenty-First-Century Great Power Competition and Conflict, White Sun War, which is a piece of fiction about a near-future Taiwan war, and The War for Ukraine: St ... Show More
1h 7m
Aug 14
Transistor Radio: H20, GPT5, DUI Lawyers, Ajinomoto
Jon, Doug, Dylan and Wei join the chat to talk export controls and GPT5. Books Doug and I like: Jonathan Spence's Search for Modern China Gavan Daws' Shoal of Time Joseph Heinrich's The Secret of Our Success Outtro Music: Europhia II from kkluv's new album https://open.spotify.co ... Show More
1h 3m
Recommended Episodes
Jan 2023
Inside China’s global propaganda machine – with Joshua Kurlantzick
With China’s military and economic power continuing to grow, Katie Stallard speaks to Joshua Kurlantzick, a journalist and fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, about Beijing’s ambition to become an information superpower. They discuss his new book, Beijing’s Global Media O ... Show More
20m 57s
Jan 2023
There’s Been a Revolution in How China Is Governed
There are few stories that are more crucial to the world’s future than what’s happening in China. Take any of the most important issues of our time — climate change, geopolitics, the global economy, advanced technologies — and China is at the center of them. American politics its ... Show More
1h 19m
Dec 2020
Xi's China
As it recovers from Covid more quickly than other nations, China appears to be stronger than ever. But the world’s next superpower faces enormous challenges of its own. Minxin Pei, a professor at Claremont McKenna College and one of the world’s leading China experts, has spent ye ... Show More
56m 44s
Oct 2022
Xi Jinping Opens a New Chapter for China
Four years ago, Xi Jinping set himself up to become China’s leader indefinitely.At last week’s Communist Party congress in Beijing, he stepped into that role, making a notable sweep of the country’s other top leaders and placing even greater focus on national security.Guest: Chri ... Show More
25m 20s
Jan 2023
The World Ahead 2023: China's challenges
As president Xi Jinping begins his third five-year term, China’s path forward is uncertain. Covid-19 is tearing through the country after it relaxed its strict “zero-covid” policies. China also faces slowing economic growth and rising geopolitical tensions with America. Are China ... Show More
26m 31s
Oct 2022
Xi Jinping’s plan for China
This month China’s President Xi Jinping is expected to secure a further five years as the country’s leader after the Communist Party abolished two-term limits. It opens the door to Xi continuing to rule for the rest of his life. His time in power has seen the country take a more ... Show More
49m 5s
Nov 2021
Where is China Heading?
Helen and David talk to Cindy Yu, host of the Chinese Whispers podcast, about the trajectory of Chinese politics. What is Beijing’s political strategy for Hong Kong and Taiwan? Is Xi Jinping really a socialist? Can the CCP escape its history? Plus, what’s the real reason Xi didn’ ... Show More
47m 31s
Jun 2021
June 27, 2021 |On GPS: As China celebrates a century of communism, Fareed talks to an expert panel about what’s next for China. Plus, Malcolm Gladwell is back with a revisionist history perspective on
On Thursday, the Chinese Communist Party will celebrate its 100-year anniversary and Beijing is commemorating with festivities all over the country. Fareed hosts Elizabeth Economy, senior fellow for China studies at the Council for Foreign Relations, Rana Mitter, professor of mod ... Show More
40m 14s
Apr 2023
Drum Tower: Chairman of everything
Whenever Xi Jinping grabs more power for himself, critics compare him to Chairman Mao Zedong. But is it a fair comparison? The Economist’s Beijing bureau chief, David Rennie, and senior China correspondent, Alice Su, discuss to what extent Xi is emulating Mao’s strongman approach ... Show More
32m 46s