The current Roland Garros champions - Rafael Nadal and Iga Swiatek - reigned in Rome last week. But they took different routes to the title.

Catherine, David and Matt react to Swiatek double bagelling Karolina Pliskova and Nadal earning a tight three set win in his 57th meeting with Novak Djokovic.

How much of the 6-0 6-0 scoreline was about Swiatek being amazing and how much was it down to Pliskova’s performance? Where does Swiatek’s ruthlessness come from? Why was Djokovic vs. Tsitsipas so wonderful? How should Djokovic feel about his week in Rome? Is Nadal in perfect shape for Roland Garros? And how has the Nadal-Djokovic rivalry evolved on clay over the past few years?

There’s also a look ahead to next week which sees Serena Williams in Parma and Roger Federer’s return in Geneva, an update on Andy Murray, and a huge tangent about Cobra Kai after Lorenzo Sonego gets a mention.

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