o every aspect of filmmaking, even when he comes to the set as an actor. He's helped rewrite scripts, and sometimes gets intimately involved in editing, as was the case with American History X. That has led to tension with directors, but Norton tells Alec that the Hollywood press has grossly mischaracterized many of those relationships. Norton himself directed Alec recently in his new film, Motherless Brooklyn. Norton stars alongside Alec's Robert Moses character, who tries to bend New York City to his will. Their shared experience on set sparks a conversation about directing, and all the great directors Norton has worked with, including Spike Lee, David Fincher, Tony Kaye, and Miloš Forman. A "cheat sheet" of all the movies and directors Edward and Alec discussed, in order, is available at https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/heresthething/edwardandalec.

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1d:T561,Anthony Michael Hall has starred in some seriously iconic movies starting with a very memorable turn as Rusty Griswold in the comedy classic, Vacation! He talks about working with and learning from Chevy Chase, John Candy, and Beverly D’Angelo. He explains how that Vacation experience led directly to his incredible working relationship and friendship with the late, great writer/director, John Hughes with whom he did Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club, and Weird Science. Anthony shares some great stories from those movie sets, all that John Hughes did for him personally, and what happened that caused the rift in their relationship. He also remembers the single season he spent on Saturday Night Live with Robert Downey, Jr. (with whom he remains great friends), and Damon Wayans! He discusses his favorite sketch

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