logo
episode-header-image
Nov 2022
1h 42m

54: Thucydides - The Cure for Plato

Untimely Reflections
About this episode
“My cure for Platonism has always been Thucydides.” Nietzsche saw in the first historian of Ancient Greece the will to adhere to realism, and to learn the lessons of the “harsh teacher” of war. Where he sees cowardice in Plato, Nietzsche sees courage in Thucydides, as well as the “practical justice” of allowing all the parties a fair representation of their ... Show More
Up next
Jul 7
The Gay Science #21 (V.343-347)
"You tremble, carcass?" After a long hiatus, we shall now fearlessly embark upon book V of The Gay Science, added to the text in 1887. In this final division of the text, we'll see Nietzsche's attempt to incorporate his late philosophy, as the conclusion of his middle period medi ... Show More
2h 5m
Jun 30
Q&A #15
You know what it is. Questions get answered. The Gay Science readthrough begins in a week's time. 
2h 49m
Jun 23
144: Georges Bataille, part 2 - 1944 Diaries
"You, whoever you are, reading me - take your own chance. Just as, at the moment of writing, I gamble with you." The much-awaited conclusion to season six is here! The year is 1944, and we follow Georges Bataille through the months of February to August as he recounts the end of ... Show More
1h 44m
Recommended Episodes
Feb 2024
Socrates vs. Thrasymachus on Justice
In this episode, I recount Socrates and Thrasymachus' debate on Justice from Plato's The Republic. If you want to support me, you can do that with these links: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theoryandphilosophy paypal.me/theoryphilosophy Twitter: @DavidGuignion TikTok: @theoryp ... Show More
15m 5s
Jul 2025
Plato's Republic
<p>Today we journey into the creation of Plato's Republic. Tristan Hughes is joined by Dr. James Romm to discover how Plato's encounters with the tyrant-ruled city of Syracuse and its rulers, Dionysius the Elder and Dionysius the Younger, deeply influenced his philosophical maste ... Show More
55m 27s
Jan 2015
Thucydides
Melvyn Bragg and his guests discuss the ancient Greek historian Thucydides. In the fifth century BC Thucydides wrote The History of the Peloponnesian War, an account of a conflict in which he had himself taken part. This work is now seen as one of the first great masterpieces of ... Show More
45m 39s
Sep 2024
Episode #212 ... Nietzsche and Critchley on the tragic perspective. (Amor Fati pt. 2)
Today we begin by talking about Nietzsche's concept of life-affirmation. Contrasting it with the renunciative, rational traditions of Western thought. The episode then delves into Greek tragedy through the lens of Simon Critchley's work; making a case for how these ancient plays ... Show More
38m 29s
Feb 2011
HoP 020 - Virtue Meets Its Match - Plato's Gorgias
Ethics against immoralism in a Socratic masterpiece. 
18m 59s
Sep 2024
Episode #211 ... Nietzsche returns with a hammer!
Today we talk about Nietzsche's views on the decay of western society. We talk about his problems with Socrates. The genealogy of Egalitarianism that has led to our modern societies, and how to contextualize his concept of the Ubermensch within modern culture. Hope you enjoy it! ... Show More
40m 32s
Feb 2023
Happiness Lessons of The Ancients: Aristotle and Plato ICYMI
The Greek thinker Socrates was put to death for encouraging his students to question everything - from their own beliefs to the laws and customs of Athenian society. But his ideas didn't die with him.  Here's a chance to hear two episodes from our archive examining the legacy of ... Show More
56m 2s
Jul 2013
Episode #004 ... Plato
In this week's episode, we learn about Plato's "Symposium", which you might think of as philosophy's version of fan fiction. We also learn about Plato's "Theory of Forms" and ask ourselves what makes a tree, well, a tree. This leads to discussion of Plato's famous "Allegory of th ... Show More
45m 1s
Sep 2020
Happiness Lessons of The Ancients: Plato
Plato likened us all to charioteers trying to control two wayward horses. The steeds represent the competing wants and desires that constantly pull us off course and away from a happier life.Yale professor Tamar Gendler joins Dr Laurie Santos to examine how the ancient Greek phil ... Show More
27m 22s
Jan 2020
Ep. 233: Plato's "Protagoras" on Virtue (Part One)
<p>On the Platonic dialogue written around 380 BCE about an encounter between Socrates and one of the leading Sophists of his day.</p> <p>What is virtue ("the political art" according to Protagoras), and can it be taught? What are the relations of the various virtues to each othe ... Show More
53m 56s