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Apr 2021
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Paradigm Shift (with Isabel Wilkerson, R...

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For many of us, the past year has prompted a paradigm shift in how we think about our community, our economy, and even our democracy. This week, we hear from three people who have led the way in forging new ways of thinking about the world around us.


Hillary talks to Pulitzer Prize-winning author Isabel Wilkerson about how a rigid hierarchy of caste in the United States has shaped—and warped—our society. She also speaks with Reshma Saujani, founder of Girls Who Code, who is working hard to change the way our country values women’s work. And she checks in with Pennsylvania State Representative and U.S. Senate candidate Malcolm Kenyatta, who is part of a generation of young people changing the face of politics in this country. 


Isabel Wilkerson’s first book, The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America’s Great Migration, won numerous awards and her newest book, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents, is being adapted into a feature film with Netflix.


Reshma Saujani is the founder and CEO of Girls Who Code, a nonprofit working to close the gender gap in technology. She is the author of the bestselling books Brave, Not Perfect and Girls Who Code: Learn the Code and Change the World. Reshma is also the host of the award-winning podcast Brave, Not Perfect.


Malcolm Kenyatta is State Representative for Pennsylvania’s 181st district in North Philadelphia, and the first LGBTQ person of color in the state assembly’s history. In February of this year, he announced his run for Pennsylvania’s U.S. Senate seat in 2022.

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