al life has been splashed across the headlines thanks to high-profile defamation cases against his ex-wife Amber Heard. Now, the latest trial is playing out in real time, live streamed to audiences across the world. What does this case tell us about their fans and how we all consume celebrity gossip?

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Host: Calum Macdonald.

Guests:

- Keiran Southern, West Coast correspondent, The Times.

- Jonathan Dean, senior writer, Sunday Times Culture.

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1d:T4de,Over the course of the show, I’ve been able to share some of my personal life with you – from meeting Justin and our decision to get married, to parenting our two sons. It means a lot to me that we can have those conversations especially at a time when the rights of queer people, especially in the trans community, are under attack. It’s been so special to have these conversations with my guests as well. First up, “Star Trek” star Zachary Quinto. Over salads at American Bar in the West Village, we discuss his decision to come out publicly and our fun romps around Silver Lake gay bars in our 20s. Then, we have podcast host, haircare entrepreneur and “Queer Eye” star Jonathan Van Ness. Jonathan tells me what it’s like to live in Texas as a queer person, their journey to discovering their nonbinary id

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