er of the database, explains why he has dedicated so much of his life to painstakingly recording a problem with no end in sight.

Guest: Mark Bryant, the founder of the Gun Violence Archive.

Background reading:

Mr. Bryant’s website, the Gun Violence Archive.
Here is how The New York Times tallies mass shootings.
From July, a partial list of U.S. mass shootings in 2023.

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Across the United States, hundreds of towns and cities are trying to get guns off the streets by turning them over to businesses that offer to destroy them.

But a New York Times investigation found that something very different is happening.

Mike McIntire, an investigative reporter at The Times, explains the unintended consequences of efforts by local officials to rid their communities of guns.

Guest: Mike McIntire, an investigative reporter for The New York Times.

Background reading:

The guns were said to be destroyed. Instead, they were reborn.
Gun control,

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