logo
episode-header-image
Aug 2022
1h 13m

Westworld with Lisa Joy

SCRIPT APART
About this episode

Violent delights have violent ends, to quote one of the most daring TV shows of the last decade. And listeners, we are now officially approaching that end of that incredible series. Today on Script Apart, Westworld co-creator Lisa Joy reflects on the creation of the smash-hit HBO series, reveals the thinking behind some of the thrilling creative decisions within its gripping fourth season and confirms that next season will be the show's last, should HBO officially give it the greenlight.

With Westworld, writer-director Lisa and her husband Jonathan Nolan have delivered a dazzling, dystopian vision of a future in which AI has run amok. Originally centred on a theme park recreation of the Wild West, the show has since zoomed out significantly to depict a robot uprising that, by season four, is threatening to bring an end to the human race. Though the show's ambitious philosophising hasn't been to everyone's tastes, there arguably hasn’t been a show more packed with mystery and intrigue since Damon Lindelof’s Lost. The constant swings Westworld takes demand to be admired.

Lisa was born in New Jersey to immigrant parents, and grew up balancing a love of poetry and storytelling with a sense of obligation to her parents, who longed for her to follow a career path with plenty of job security. Which is how she became a lawyer, before deciding to risk it all to pursue her love of writing. In this episode, we talk about how that immigrant background influenced some of her storytelling sensibilities and how everything changed while pregnant with her first child, when she wrote a brilliant spec script titled Reminiscence, that announced to Hollywood that here was a writer capable of threading huge questions about nostalgia and the nature of human existence into captivating popcorn entertainment. 

We also delve into the shocking twists in Westworld that were originally going to happen in the show’s pilot, as she and Jonathan debated how to pace this series and the many secrets contained within. Also if you’re wondering what’s in store in season five, we have you covered. Lisa speaks eloquently in this episode about the parallels between the ending of Westworld season four and the predicaments that we as a species are staring down in real life right now.

This is a spoiler conversation so be sure to have caught up with the show before tuning in.

Script Apart is hosted by Al Horner and produced by Kamil Dymek. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram, or email us on thescriptapartpodcast@gmail.com.

Support for this episode comes from ScreenCraft, Arc Studio Pro and WeScreenplay.

To get ad-free episodes and exclusive content, join us on Patreon.

Support the show


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Up next
Jul 4
Black Mirror with Charlie Brooker
Today on Script Apart, we’re taking a long, hard look in the mirror – Charlie Brooker’s dystopian anthology series Black Mirror, to be more precise, with the beloved British writer joining Al for a spoiler-filled breakdown of the show’s brilliant latest season. Yes, this week we’ ... Show More
1h 24m
Jun 27
Elio with Domee Shi and Madeline Sharafian
As the Talking Heads once nearly sang: “And may find yourself beamed up into a spacecraft. And you may find yourself pretending to be the leader of Earth. And you may find yourself hanging out with weird and wonderful beings from outer-space, going up against intergalactic warlor ... Show More
44m 3s
Jun 23
28 Years Later with Alex Garland
The last time acclaimed writer-director Alex Garland (Ex Machina, Civil War, Annihilation) appeared on Script Apart, he told Al about his desire to quit directing temporarily and focus on writing – you know, like in the early days of his career. Well, it doesn’t get much more lik ... Show More
1h 1m
Recommended Episodes
Jun 2022
'Westworld' Season 4, Episode 1 Recap
Joanna, David, and Danny break down the Season 4 premiere of 'Westworld,' from the new opening title sequence to theories about how the upcoming season will play out. They start by discussing what's going on with the flies, and getting into how Caleb's story has changed since las ... Show More
1h 36m
Apr 2020
Decoding Westworld S3E7 - Passed Pawn
Decoding Westworld is a weekly podcast recapping the HBO original series Westworld. In this episode, Joanna and David discuss the season three, episode seven, "Passed Pawn."Thanks for listening to this season of Decoding Westworld. Have your own crackpot theory?  Want to leave us ... Show More
1h 38m
Apr 2022
Writer Alice Oseman talks Heartstopper and writing “the TV moment of a lifetime”
We’re both fresh from our holidays and feeling great, not least because we’re joined by Heartstopper writer and creator, Alice Oseman. The long-awaited teen drama, which originally existed as a graphic novel, is now streaming and Alice tells us everything from casting her beloved ... Show More
32m 32s
May 2022
The Duffer Brothers
In anticipation of Stranger Things returning to Netflix, Matt and Ross Duffer join the show to provide insight into the series and give listeners a first look at season 4! The duo share their unique introduction to filmmaking (a fascination that began in kindergarten after seeing ... Show More
49m 41s
Aug 2020
'Hollywood, The Sequel,' Episode 10: "2020 Visions For Hollywood’s Future with Glenn Close and Ruth Carter"
As the Frame is on hiatus, we are sharing the new show by John Horn, "Hollywood, The Sequel." The limited-run podcast series asks some of the entertainment industry’s most influential artists and executives how Hollywood could and should reinvent itself. Glenn Close is hoping for ... Show More
25m 11s
Jun 2022
'Westworld' Season 4 Preview
Joanna Robinson, David Shoemaker, and Danny Heifetz join in anticipation of the new season of HBO's 'Westworld,' recapping the good and the bad of the first three seasons, and breaking down everything you need to know before Season 4 begins.If you have any questions or thoughts a ... Show More
1h 32m
May 2022
Stranger Things is BACK! and so is our fear of demon kids
It’s a great day for TV fans and a great day to work for Netflix because Stranger Things is BACK for Season 4 - and if that’s not exciting enough, we finally got Tolani to watch an episode! We discuss our first impressions of season 4 (don’t worry, no spoilers), our fear of demon ... Show More
32m 17s
Jun 2023
‘Black Mirror’ Season 6, Episodes 1-2 Recap
Joanna Robinson and Van Lathan are here to unpack the first two episodes of ‘Black Mirror’ Season 6. They briefly talk about the shows that came before it and that inspired the Netflix anthology series, as well as their thoughts on past seasons. Next, they share their personal to ... Show More
54m 53s
Jan 2023
Janette Kotichas Meets World
When an unfamiliar name popped up during Season 1’s rewatch as the writer of two iconic episodes, the gang knew they what they had to do. After some internet sleuthing and trepidation to participate, writer Janette Kotichas joins the show to fill in the blanks on why, despite two ... Show More
1h 8m
May 2020
Decoding Westworld S3E8 - Crisis Theory
Decoding Westworld is a weekly podcast recapping the HBO original series Westworld. In this episode, Joanna and David discuss the season three finale, "Crisis Theory."Thanks for listening to this season of Decoding Westworld this season! You can keep in touch by listening/subscri ... Show More
2h 8m