Shay, Jared, and Guest Pam break down the power of doing recovery work with the members of the family that are ready to do the work. We breakdown systemic change and the relevance of meeting people where they are at in their progress. Pam is a mom that still wants to live her own life apart from the chaos of addiction even though her son is still in-and-out of his recovery presently. Pam and her husband have been doing coaching and learning how to hold Tough and Love boundaries while learning to enjoy their lives without all the constant stress and worry that comes from addictions and mental health struggles. Pam shares her experience with practicing My-Time in creative ways with her son as well as filling her emotional cup with service in her community for underprivileged children.