On this weeks episode we catch up with back to back Gallaher Shield (2018, 2019) coaches from Ponsonby rugby club in New Zealand - Peter Leulusoo & Jeff Ierome. Our host Tj Olsen get's their analysis on the Mitre 10 Cup (Auckland vs Waikato), The Bledisloe Cup decider (New Zealand vs Australia) & what it takes to coach for a club that has produced the most All Blacks in the history of New Zealand.