Mel talks to Ben about his lifelong decision to be sober, what he observes while socializing sober, songwriting, and what he's seen in his 20 years of NYC. Ben talks about the driving force behind his decision and why he doesn't judge anyone for choosing to drink. He shares the ways he's seen NYC and its music scene transform over the last 20 years and what his process of making music. At the end, he gives Mel one insight into why dating in the city is so tough and she's determined to bring him on again to expand. Be sure to check out Ben's band Onesie and get buzzed on all his insights on society in this episode!