Welcome to the Policy People Podcast. In this conversation, I discuss NATO and the future of transatlanticism with
Lauren Speranza. We discuss Biden’s Europe tour means for transatlanticism, the generational divide in NATO leadership, how Gen Z and Millenials view the organization, the three levels of hybrid threat, the nuances between Russian and Chinese threats to Europe, whether an EU-wide military could replace NATO, if cyberattacks can trigger the NATO Treaty’s Article 5 for collective defense action, the alliance’s expansion in the Indo-Pacific, the role of NATO in upholding ‘the West’ as a socio-political entity and many more topics.
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Lauren Speranza is Director of the Transatlantic Defense and Security program at the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA), where she works with the U.S. government and NATO ally and partner governments to inform transatlantic security policy. Her areas of expertise include defense and deterrence in Europe, hybrid warfare, defense technology, and NATO-EU relations. Prior to joining CEPA, Lauren was the deputy director of the Transatlantic Security Initiative at the Atlantic Council. Her recent projects and publications have focused on Russian and Chinese hybrid threats, Chinese investment in European technology, and NATO adaptation for the future. You can discover her tank’s work at
cepa.org. You can also connect with Lauren on
LinkedIn or follow her on Twitter at the handle
@LaurenSperanza.
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