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Jan 2021
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45: Malcolm Nance

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In the aftermath of protests that saw the Capitol building overrun with almost the entire government inside, Clay is joined by US Intellligence expert and anti-terrorism mastermind Malcolm Nance to discuss how it got to this point, and what our government should be doing as we approach the transition of power.  Will the halls of government be secured?  Or will a combination of ineptness and ill will continue to leave us at risk of terror or worse?  And with democracy in retreat across the globe, what will it take to turn things around so we can get back to getting along?

Guest:
Malcolm W. Nance was a career counterterrorism and intelligence officer for the U.S. government’s Special Operations, Homeland Security, and Intelligence agencies, with over 33 years of experience in combating radical extremism. An honorably retired U.S. Navy Arabic-speaking intelligence collections operator, field interrogator, Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape specialist and founder of the Advanced Terrorism, Abduction and Hostage Survival School, he spent more than two decades on clandestine antiterrorism and counterterrorism intelligence operations in the Middle East North Africa, the Balkans, South Asia, and sub-Saharan Africa in direct support of the Special Operations and Intelligence Community. On the morning of 9/11, he eyewitnessed the attack on the Pentagon and became a first responder at the crash site.
A fierce champion of ethics, human rights and cultural integration in intelligence practitioners and activities, he has trained and advised numerous defense, intelligence, and law enforcement agencies worldwide in understanding and exploiting terrorist strategies, tactics, and ideology to combat the spread of radical extremism.
He has authored several books in multiple editions including The Terrorist Recognition Handbook: A Practitioner’s Manual for Predicting and Identifying Terrorist Activity (1st-3rd Editions), An End to al-Qaeda: Destroying bin Laden’s Jihad and Restoring America’s Honor, and The Terrorists of Iraq: Inside the Strategy and Tactics of the Iraq Insurgency (1st-2nd Editions).
He is the best selling author of Defeating ISIS, The Plot To Hack America, The Plot To Destroy Democracy and The Plot To Betray America.
Mr. Nance has been seen by millions of TV news viewers as a guest policy analyst for CNN, ABC News, FOX News, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, and Al Arabiya, and he has appeared on global interview shows including PBS’s NewsHour, the BBC’s Hardtalk and World Have Your Say, Australian Broadcasting’s Dateline, German TV’s ZDF Frontier 21, TV5 France, and other political talk shows. He has written opinion editorials and has been a source for the New York Times, New York Daily News, International Herald Tribune, Atlanta Journal Constitution, Washington Post, San Diego Union Tribune, Times of London, Guardian UK, Australian, Sydney Morning Herald (National) (Abu Dhabi), and Daily Telegraph. He has written articles for distinguished magazines and publications, including Foreign Policy, Small Wars Journal, Time magazine, Counterterrorism, Special Operations, and Counterterrorist. He was featured in the Academy Award nominated Documentary Dirty Wars, the award winning Torturing Democracy and on the Rolling Stone’s 2008 Hotlist as a blogger for Small Wars Journal.
He regularly speaks and participates in programs at the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.
Mr. Nance is a graduate of New York Excelsior University. He lives and studies between Hudson, New York, and Abu Dhabi, UAE.

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