First, Jason covers Coinbase's announcement of their new NFT platform (2:06). Then, Bloomberg's Max Chafkin joins to discuss his book, "The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power" (19:57). It's a wide-ranging discussion about Peter's life, business, and politics as well as a debate over the way Max framed him in the book.
Jan 2021
Peter Thiel: "It's Up to Us to Make the Future Better"
In this episode, Andrew and Navin speak with Silicon Valley icon, Peter Thiel. They dive deep into the impact of Covid-19, the US rivalry with China, and the effects of artificial intelligence on the global economy. Peter Thiel is the co-founder of PayPal, made the first outside ... Show More
28m 38s
Jul 2025
Interesting Times: A Mind-Bending Conversation with Peter Thiel
<p>This week, we’re bringing you a recent interview from “Interesting Times with Ross Douthat,” one of The New York Times’s newest podcasts. In this episode, Ross sits down with Peter Thiel, the co-founder of PayPal and Palantir and one of the most contrarian thinkers in tech. To ... Show More
1h 2m
Oct 2021
E50: Crypto investing deep dive, Facebook's whistleblower fallout, Chappelle's new special & more
Show Notes: 0:00 Mercury is in retrograde & impacting the besties 2:01 Sacks on Solana, sophisticated crypto strategies, crypto deep dive 26:23 Building regulatory framework for utility tokens, institutional money in crypto 40:59 Facebook whistleblower, potential ramifications & ... Show More
1h 23m
Jan 2022
Facebook’s Crypto Dreams Bite the Dust, Robinhood M&A Rumors, and Guest W. Kamau Bell
Kara and Scott discuss the downfall of Facebook cryptocurrency, Diem, and M&A speculation surrounding Robinhood. Also, another round of Elevator Pitch starring Tom Brady’s NFT platform, Autograph. Then, Friend of Pivot W. Kamau Bell joins to talk about his upcoming documentary, “ ... Show More
1h 1m
Apr 2025
Is Elon Musk the Ultimate Scam Artist? with Max Chafkin
<p>Author and journalist Max Chafkin, co-host of the podcast Elon, Inc., joins Trevor and Christiana to discuss one of today’s most fascinating and controversial figures: Elon Musk. The three talk about how Elon came to be the world’s richest person, whether he’s a brilliant entr ... Show More
1h 10m
<p>Jack Butcher, Bilal Zaidi & Trung Phan discuss what they're finding on the edges of the internet + the latest in business, technology and memes.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Watch + Subscribe on YouTube:</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/yW_uXyLoApg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target ... Show More
<p>Peter and Michael discuss Michael Lewis’s bestselling book about the rise and fall of Sam Bankman-Fried, a young prodigy whose only flaw was that he dreamed too big.<br/><br/><b>Where to find us: </b></p><ul><li><a href='https://www.fivefourpod.com/'>Peter's other podcast ... Show More