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Nov 2020
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Matt Chorley is joined by columnists Alice Thomson and John Kampfner, then former Chief Secretaries to the Treasury David Gauke and Liam Byrne explain what the job involves when you're preparing for a spending review, and Liam Byrne explains why he left the famous note: "I'm afraid there's no money."

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