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Jul 2021
20m 16s

The Upside of Our Parents' Divorce

The New York Times
About this episode

What’s the secret to sibling success? Apparently, an ugly divorce. At least, that’s how it went down for Ellen Umansky and her two brothers. Ellen’s parents separated when she was 9. “They loved us deeply, but there were battles to be won — emotional, reputational, financial,” Ellen wrote in her Modern Love essay. 

As Ellen and her brothers were flung into a new reality of parental feuds and convoluted calendar arrangements, her brothers became her “one constant and comfort.” Today’s episode is about “Team Umansky,” as Ellen’s husband calls them, a unit that has stuck together from adolescence through adulthood.  

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Featured stories: 

  • "The Secret to Sibling Success," by Ellen Umansky
  • "Trusting the Edge" by Kim Addonizio
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