Rebecca, the AntiMLM force behind the IG account "Once Upon a Biz", spent 10 years of her life in the cult of Amway. While under their spell, she found herself slowly changing and shifting not only her attitude and focus, but her religious and political views as well. She met her husband while in what she describes as her "hunbot" phase, and shares what it's ... Show More
Jul 2023
Emily Lynn Paulson - Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing
<p>When #BossBabe culture goes wrong. Author of Hey, Hun: Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing and former member of an MLM she calls Rejuvinat, Emily Paulson, shares how she was first introduced to the group by a friend from school, how it ... Show More
1h 6m
Apr 2025
Surviving a Doomsday Cult
This week, special guest & friend of the pod Cherish joins Lucy to discuss her experience leaving the Children of God cult, building a new life in the US, and her reflections since.Additional resources on the Children of God:BooksSex Cult Nun by Faith JonesNot Without My Sister b ... Show More
39m 56s
Oct 2024
Special Episode: Rebecca Minkoff: Becoming a Real Housewife
When Rebecca recorded with Emily earlier this year, she was keeping a big secret. Now, as the newest member of the Real Housewives cast, Rebecca shares with us why she made this huge pivot and what we can expect from RHONY. We’re also re-releasing the entirety of her episode from ... Show More
51m 54s
Dec 2023
Bonus 1: Coaching or Culting?
<p>Sarah Edmonson publicly left NXIVM, a life coaching MLM made famous by the HBO documentary, The Vow, in 2017 shortly after being branded with the founder's initials. Jane and Sarah sit down to discuss the fine line between coaching and culting. Sarah and her husband, Nippy Ame ... Show More
28m 12s